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« Antworten #25 am: 25. Mai 2011, 10:15:16 »

ahh, sehr gut, das heisst die beiden könnten sich schön kloppen Smiley

habe ja jetzt beide omnibbusse, meine frage jetzt:

welche comics brauche noch ich um alle beisammen zu haben?
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« Antworten #26 am: 25. Mai 2011, 11:07:14 »

also ich weiß jetzt ned wirklich welche ausgaben in den beiden enthalten sind, aber es gibt auf alle fälle noch nen dritten omnibus der devastation und ein paar weitere spotlight beinhaltet, als nächstes würd dann glaub ich die bücher spotlight 4 (revelations), maximum dinobots, all hail megatron, last stand of the wreckers, ironhide und halt ongoing kommen (infestation muß man leider auch dazu zählen und heart of darkness läuft gerade). glaub das sind dann alle Zwinkernd
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« Antworten #27 am: 25. Mai 2011, 11:26:29 »

danke für den tipp mit volume 3, in foundation sidn ganz hinten noch 2 omnibusse eingetragen, werd eich heute abend mal nachgucken

volume 3 wird jetzt bestellt, gibt nur noch 2 bei amazon!
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« Antworten #28 am: 27. Juni 2011, 23:00:06 »

Hier kommen die ersten Seiten des nächsten Hefts zu Transformers: Heart of Darkness.

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Tranformers heart darkness 4 11 Tranformers heart darkness 4 04 Tranformers heart darkness 4 02 Tranformers heart darkness 4 09

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« Antworten #29 am: 27. Juni 2011, 23:16:59 »

hat galvatron zugenommen ?  BigSmile
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« Antworten #30 am: 28. Juni 2011, 07:44:23 »

grauenhafter zeichenstil... aber immerhin sind wir danach mitten in CHAOS Smiley

der kampf gegen nova prime könnte interessant werden Zwinkernd
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« Antworten #31 am: 13. Oktober 2011, 17:59:51 »

IDW hat wohl geplant, auch weiterhin Zombies und Roboter zusammen zu nringen. Die Crossover Comic Reihe Infestation soll im Jahr 2012 in Runde zwei gehen. Auf der Seite Newsarama könnt ihr die komplette Pressemitteilung lesen.

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« Antworten #32 am: 13. Oktober 2011, 23:17:24 »

na bin ich froh das es diesmal im hearts of steel universum spielt, keine lust das wieder einer der maincast in einem (unnötigen) crossover drauf geht.
hoffe allerdings das sie dann die aktuelle turtles serie nicht versauen...
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« Antworten #33 am: 15. Oktober 2011, 13:26:58 »

Wir hatten euch berichtet, das IDW geplant hat, der Crossover Comic Reihe Transformers Infestation einen zweiten Teil zu geben. Dazu haben wir hier vom Comiczeichner Guido Guidi ein mögliches Cover für euch. Es trägt den Namen "Hearts of Steel Optimus Prime vs. Cthulu".

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« Antworten #34 am: 07. Januar 2012, 13:49:13 »

Vor einigen Wochen haben wir euch das erste mögliche Cover zum kommenden IDW Crossover Comic Infestation vorgestellt. Heute können wir euch ein mögliches Cover zu Infestation #2 vorstellen. Es trägt den Namen Hearts Of Steel Bumblebee. Wir haben hier ein Skizzenbild davon und auch die schon farbige Version. Auch zum ersten Teil Infestation 2: Transformers #1 haben wir nun die farbige Version dazu. Die beiden Comics sollen im Februar erscheinen, aber auf idwpublishing.com gibt es schon Inhaltsangaben dazu.

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« Antworten #35 am: 30. Januar 2012, 00:56:46 »

Heute können wir euch die ersten Seiten zum zweiten Teil zu IDW´s Transformers Infestation Heft 1 zeigen.

Infest5 1327869410 Infest11 1327869410 Infest9 1327869410 Infest7 1327869410 Infest10 1327869410 Infest6 1327869410 Infest3 1327869410 Infest1 1327869410 Infest8 1327869410 Infest4 1327869410

Auch eine Inhaltsangabe haben wir hier für euch: The Infestation threat has broken the boundaries of time and the Lovecraftian monsters invade the world of Transformers: Hearts of Steel! It's a steam-punk world in the grips of panic as terrifying beings from the depths of the ocean corrupt both humans and Decepticons! Only one man knows how to stop the Infestation, and it's up to him to awaken the Autobots in time to prevent full-scale cataclysm!

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« Antworten #36 am: 30. Januar 2012, 07:12:07 »

ui Heart of Steel Seacons  BigSmile

die zeichnungen sind auch toll, vielleicht wirds diesmal wirklich besser
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« Antworten #37 am: 14. Februar 2012, 15:42:12 »

Hier kommt einige Seiten aus dem IDW Comic Infestation Heft Nummer 2.

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Zum Inhalt haben wir folgende Abgaben gefunden: The Infestation threatens all of America, and its evil seems unstoppable as it infects everything in its path. Tobias Muldoon is called upon to help the Autobots find a solution, and he knows the perfect man for the job—Nikola Tesla! Together they attempt to re-activate Optimus Prime, but it's unclear if he will be able to turn the tide in an increasingly hopeless situation!

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« Antworten #38 am: 19. März 2012, 22:52:38 »

Es wird von IDW ein weiteres Crossover Comic Buch erscheinen. Das G.I. JOE / Transformers Paperback kann man bei Amazon.com schon für $24.99 vorbestellen. Erscheinen soll es im September diesen Jahres und zum Inhalt wird folgendes angegeben: The worlds of G.I. JOE and The Transformers combine in this first volume of crossovers. Contains the 4-issue G.I. JOE and The Transformers limited series, plus issues #139-142 of Marvel's G.I. JOE: A Real American Hero. Megatron and Cobra versus the JOEs and the Autobots - who will come out on top?

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« Antworten #39 am: 19. März 2012, 23:03:07 »

Ich vermute mal, dass dürfte das allererste Crossover sein, publiziert von Marvel Comics... und auch das absolut schlechteste, sogar mieser als das Ding von Dreamwave. Aber das Crossover in den regulären GI Joe Comics war ziemlich gut und hat die (leider nicht mehr so tolle) G2 Comic-Reihe eingeläutet.
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« Antworten #40 am: 20. März 2012, 00:24:28 »

naja, so schlecht war das allererste crossover nicht. immerhin wurde bumblebee getötet! (und danach als goldbug wieder zusammengebaut ^^)

auf das g2 crossover freu ich mich schon, allerdings nehm ich dafür den g.i. joe sammelband Zwinkernd
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« Antworten #41 am: 07. Juli 2012, 12:46:24 »

Wir haben euch berichtet, das es von IDW ein Crossover Comic geben wird. Es handelt sich um das G.I. JOE/Transformers Comic und dazuhaben wir jetzt hier von Volume 1 das Cover für euch.

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« Antworten #42 am: 23. Januar 2013, 12:07:28 »

Heute zeigen wir euch eine Vorschau zum IDW Crossover Comic Mars Attacks The Transformers.

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« Antworten #43 am: 23. Januar 2013, 12:25:14 »

Sorry das ich das sagen muss aber das ist doch Mist!!!!!

Da gibt es doch bestimmt 1000 bessere Crossover als sowas Daumrunter
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« Antworten #44 am: 24. Januar 2013, 12:12:56 »

Hier haben wir die Kommentare zum IDW Crossover Comic Mars Attacks The Transformers von den Machern Shane McCarthy, Matt Frank und Josh Perez.

Q: How did you all come to be involved in the MARS ATTACKS: THE TRANSFORMERS crossover?

SHANE MCCARTHY: It was all a bit out of the blue actually. I got an email from [IDW Editor] Carlos Guzman asking if I’d be interested in doing the book. The idea seemed so crazy I couldn’t pass it up.
MATT FRANK: I had been working primarily on Godzilla stuff for the last two years, and somebody must have said “Hey, this guy sure can blow stuff up real good!” and I was asked to make the SDCC exclusive cover for the first issue of the new Mars Attacks series. Apparently it caught on, as I was asked to do a few more covers... and I had also been doing more TRANSFORMERS stuff recently, so I was lucky enough to be asked to do this!
JOSH PEREZ: I brainwashed everyone into thinking I should have a part in this book! Man, I shouldn’t have squandered that wish on that… NAH. Seriously, I think Matt and Carlos wanted me on this book, and I’ve worked with Matt before on Godzilla covers AND Shane before on the DRIFT mini-series.

Q: What were your approaches to working crossover of this nature? Was it something that you found difficult to do?

SHANE MCCARTHY: It wasn’t too difficult once I found the tone I’d like to use when approaching the story. It could have gone a few different ways but I really wanted to go for all out fun. The only stipulation that was given to me by Carlos was that it would be set in the G1 universe, so I figured we could take that a step further and make it a real Mars Attacks Saturday Morning Cartoons. Mixing the two properties was a gold mine for humor, so it was a real pleasure to cut loose and find the fun in all of this.
MATT FRANK: Shane did all the heavy lifting, so it wasn't all that hard for me! Actually, it presented an interesting artistic opportunity – the universe is most emphatically based on the Generation 1 cartoon, so the Transformers and the world around them are relatively simple with that ’80s-animation-style. On the other hand, the Martians are a bit more graphically diverse, so their crazy over-saturated aesthetic is “invading” the cartoon world of the TRANSFORMERS! Thankfully, with Josh’s coloring, they don't look aggressively out-of-place, so it all meshes very well.
JOSH PEREZ: I approached this with glee and smiles. I LOVE that the style of the writing AND the art (both of which are really great in this issue!) were that “’80s G1 Transformers cartoon” style. Rendering the Transformers using their cartoon palettes was fun and made a lot of the work go by quickly! I always love doing cel-shaded books when and where I can, so this issue was fun and easier than the more rendered-looking stuff I do elsewhere—and Matt/Shane gave me a TON of space creatively to do all kinds of fun stuff with the book!

Q: Obviously you all knew about TRANSFORMERS, did you have to do much research on Mars Attacks to prepare yourself for working on this story?

SHANE MCCARTHY: I did a lot of research in finding the right tone and taking elements from the Mars Attacks universe that would suit that. I went right back to the original trading cards and used that as a launching pad for the whole project.
MATT FRANK: We got some nice design documents from Topps, and I had already done some boning-up when working on the earlier covers, so there wasn’t much of a transition for me. A few things I DID research were some of the TRANSFORMERS I had never drawn before... which turned out to be most of them! I had never drawn Prowl or Astrotrain, for example, but thankfully I was gifted a copy of The Complete Ark recently by Chris Mowry, so I had plenty of reference material!
JOSH PEREZ: I always love working with the Transformers brand, and have been for some time now, so I know most of these guys inside-and-out; but the most I knew about Mars Attacks was the movie Tim Burton worked on. I’ve known about the old cards from ’62, but I never really got to look through them, nor have I ever had the chance to work with the Mars Attacks Martians and all that goodness. After receiving some nice references from Topps and IDW, I went CRAZY and ordered a set of the old cards; those are GREAT to look through! I would love to do something with Mars Attacks that’s “painted up” all nice and pretty and graphic like the cards from the ’60s!

Q: What lessons did you take from the previous books you’ve worked on into this one?

SHANE MCCARTHY: Like any project you need to find what interests you and what you think will interest the artist first, especially given we’re the ones that need to feel that excitement to transfer energy onto the page. Once you’ve done that it’s about having a lot fun. The real lesson I took into this was to just enjoy it.
MATT FRANK: For a while I've been struggling with how to differentiate my own TRANSFORMERS “style” from the greats, and several folks began to mention how much they liked the expressions I had been giving these giant robots. So I definitely try to push that as much as I can without making them over-the-top comedic. I had also learned a lot from the previous one-shots I’d worked on, such as busting my hump for tight deadlines without letting the work suffer. The key is a lot of energy drinks and to sleep in 4-hour increments!
JOSH PEREZ: I got to use cel-shading! I actually used it a lot differently for this book than I have in previous; I tried to make my cel-cuts feel similar to those of the cartoon. I watched the G1 series a lot (like I really needed an excuse to do that) to try and match the value shapes that the cartoon used. Again, I absolutely love it when I get a chance to cel-render a book.

Q: How have you found collaborating on the book to be like, and also with IDW editor, Carlos Guzman?

SHANE MCCARTHY: I was thrilled to work with Matt on this. I hadn’t seen his work before so when the first pages started coming through I was blown away. He really captured the spirit of the humor and went a long way to making everything I did look a whole lot better. I’d certainly love to work with him again. Josh is always a pleasure to work with as his colours just escalate any project into the stratosphere. Carlos was another new variable for me and, no surprise, he was fantastic to work with. I need boundaries when I write but hate when someone tries to do my job for me; Carlos was brilliant in setting the parameters and pointing out potential problems but letting me do the fixing. He’s a great team leader.
MATT FRANK: I’d worked with Carlos on Godzilla: Kingdom of Monsters, and he’s a fine editor with a good head on his shoulders (maybe he can use that quote for his autobiography). He also does a good job of keeping me on track when the deadline’s rushing up to meet us! Josh and I have collaborated since God-Knows-When, and our first major work together was Godzilla: Legends issue 1, so I was thrilled that he was stepping in to help. This was the first time Shane and I had crossed paths, and it was quite an honor—I’m a big fan of All Hail Megatron and I’ve found his work to be reliably snappy and natural in its storytelling structure.
JOSH PEREZ: Let me just say that IDW’s editors are amazing. I’ve worked with Carlos before, but since sometime last year (towards the end of 2011), I’ve been lucky to work with him as often as I do now. As Matt said, he definitely knows how to keep a crew on track—even if we (read: me, myself, and I) can be a pain to deal with sometimes. It’s because of Carlos that I had the insane pleasure to work with two very fun brands: TRANSFORMERS AND Mars Attacks. Thanks man!

Q: After everything is in place, how pleased are all you with the final product? Did you get the same feeling what you saw you’re any of your previous published work?

SHANE MCCARTHY: I’m very pleased with it. I think the whole team did a fantastic job and were all on the same page with how it should be done. It was an effortless pleasure and I hope the fans get a good laugh out of it.
MATT FRANK: It was a riotous good time. My only real caveat is that I’d love to have more time to polish things up or make certain scenes look juuuuuuust right, but deadlines are saviours just as much as they can be destroyers—without them us darn artists will just tweak stuff into oblivion. Overall, I’m QUITE pleased with the final product and am adding it to my personal lexicon of favorite projects!
JOSH PEREZ: While I really do love how the whole book turned out (Shane and Matt are amazing people!), I will always look at my work once it’s all done and see different ways I could have approached what I did… but that’s what it’s like doing anything artistic! You always want to do better than you did before—or at least you should, anyway. I think this book turned out fantastic and I certainly hope everyone will find it enjoyable!

Q: Will we be seeing any of you again on more Transformers books in the near future?

SHANE MCCARTHY: Who knows! I’m doing a lot of creator-owned work these days but I’ll always make time for a journey back to Cybertron whenever possible.
MATT FRANK: I’m actually in the middle of doing a new story for the Transformers Collectors Club, and the subject matter is something I’ve been dying to do for a good while now...but you’ll have to stay tuned, as I’m unsure when I can really talk about it! But it’s gonna be AWESOMELICIOUS, which is not a word! [Editor’s note—plus the just-announced TRANSFORMERS SPOTLIGHT: TRAILCUTTER from IDW and Hasbro, out in April!]
JOSH PEREZ: You can catch my digital-crayon skills in the ongoing Tranformers comic book series: in interiors for TRANSFORMERS: ROBOTS IN DISGUISE and on covers for TRANSFORMERS: MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE. And hopefully on whatever-else Transformers-related!

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« Antworten #45 am: 24. Januar 2013, 14:48:53 »

Hab' das TF/Mars Attacks Crossover jetzt gelesen und verbuche es mal unter harmloser Ulk. Ein paar In-Jokes (u.a. warum Spike immer diese gelben Stiefel trägt), endlich mal Sinn in Cosmos' Alternativmodus und ansonsten einfach ein paar Haudrauf-Szenen. Sicherlich kein Meisterstück und auch vom Unterhaltungswert bei weitem nicht mit "More Than meets the Eye" zu vergleichen, aber für ein paar kurze Lacher ganz gut.
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« Antworten #46 am: 11. Oktober 2013, 09:47:54 »

Von IDW kommt nun ein neues Recently, Scioli (an occasional guest contributor to ComicsAlliance) has been focusing on creator-owned webcomics like American Barbarian, Final Frontier and the Super Mario-inspired Mystery Object, but in this series, he and co-writer John Barber are taking everyone’s favorite toy franchises into a story that IDW describes as being “cosmic in scale.” From the looks of things, it’s the Joe team against the entire planet of Cybertron, and I could not be more excited about it.

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« Antworten #47 am: 19. Oktober 2013, 09:43:11 »

Von IDW kommt nun ein neues Crossover Comic heraus. Und diesmal ist es keine geringere Serie als die legendäre Akte X. Nach Außerirdischen und Unbekannten treffen Mulder und Scully nun auf die Transformers. Der Titel dieses "Event" lautet "The X-Files: Conspiracy".

When The X-Files went off the air in 2002 after nine seasons, fans were left with a lingering question: what role did Optimus Prime play in any of this? The answers may become clear in The X-Files: Conspiracy, a forthcoming comic book from IDW Publishing that will find FBI agents Mulder and Scully crossing paths with some of the biggest nostalgia acts of the 1980s and '90s : the Transformers, the Ghostbusters, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and the Crow.

According to The Hollywood Reporter, the plot focuses on "a potential plague apparently set to destroy humanity in the near future." Mulder and Scully team up with the Lone Gunmen to investigate, and somehow an entire Saturday morning cartoon lineup enters into the picture.

This is apparently the fourth such fan-service cash-in from IDW, having previously introduced such pairings as G.I. Joe and Star Trek, and Mars Attacks with Popeye. The comic is set to come out next year. If it's successful, look for a crew of Thundercats to enter the Saved By the Bell universe sometime soon.

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« Antworten #48 am: 12. Dezember 2013, 20:21:56 »

Für den "Free Comic Book Day 2014" wird es ein neues IDW Transformers vs G.I. Joe Comic geben. Gemacht wird es von Tom Scioli und John Barber und folgendes sagt IDW dazu: Two titans of pop culture clash in the kick-off of an all-new, all-action ongoing series! When Earth is threatened by giant machine life from outer space, the planet’s greatest heroes unite—but will they be enough? From the pulse-pounding pen of visionary artist Tom Scioli begins the most cosmic crossover of all time!

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« Antworten #49 am: 10. Januar 2014, 10:21:11 »

Wir haben hier ein Interview mit Tom Scioli und Newsarama zum IDW Transformers / G.I. Joe Crossover Comic.

Newsarama: Tom, how did this come about?
Tom Scioli: Pretty organically – I sent some samples of my work to IDW, and then I was contacted by John Barber about doing a cover for Black Dynamite, and then I started pitching ideas around the image I’d come up with, and it was a bit too much all at once, but after a while he contacted me with an idea for a Transformers/G.I. Joe comic, this one-sentence pitch. So those were all the steps.

Nrama: This can get confusing, but what continuity does this take place in?
Scioli: My thoughts are that this is its own continuity – they can be similar to other books except for how these worlds interact, or they can be completely different, I hate to change anything without a good reason, but I do like to feel like everything is up for grabs.
There’s no unified continuity for either of these properties – they’ve both existed for a long time, and had their own worlds, but there is no one “right” version.

Nrama: What I liked about the preview image was that it had these very 1980s-style designs –
Scioli: Right.

Nrama: You know, “Let’s do a 1980s-style G.I. Joe/Transformers comic, and in that Kirby visual style.” That’s ringing my bell. (laughs)
Scioli: Yeah, I’ll take influences from wherever I can get them, but with these, the 1980s designs were very much present in my mind. Those designs, to me, were incredibly strong, incredibly memorable, so I’m going to use them to the best of my ability.

Nrama: I’m trying to remember who did the designs, especially for the cartoon –
Scioli: I know Larry Hama was heavily involved in a lot of the G.I. Joe designs, but I’m sure there were a lot of people on the toy end, the comics end, the cartoon end…a lot of people.

Nrama: Those designs were very meaningful to me as a kid. There were a lot of toys and cartoons, but those designs had a certain…kind of mythological quality to them that I can’t quite explain.
Scioli: Yeah, and you have to think of the difficulty of taking a functional toy, you know, this toy that does a specific thing, and then translating into a character that you can relate to, yet is still recognizable as a toy – that’s something that’s a very difficult design problem. Whoever that initial designer was came up with some very creative solutions to that.

Nrama: And you read the initial appearances of some of these characters in the comics, where they just had the initial toy designs to go off of, and the characters are very stiff – and once they’ve been in the comics a bit, they tend to loosen up a little.
Scioli: I think that happens with comics in general. If you look at the first few issues of the Fantastic Four—when you start drawing a character for the first time, even if it’s a character you created, it takes a while for everything to snap into place
That’s where I’m at with this book – I think I’m over the hump right now. I did a lot of drawings of these characters that the public hasn’t seen, just to understand how they’re put together intimately, so I could put them in any situation that I need to. But you really need to draw them a couple times before you can really get into the characters.

Nrama: How into the characters were you growing up? Did you play with the toys, read the comics, watch the cartoons…?
Scioli: I didn’t read any of the comics back then – I kind of wish I did, because I’m reading them now and they’re great, especially the Marvel G.I. Joe stuff. I mean, those are now some of my favorite comics.
But I watched the cartoons – those shows were part of the cultural landscape when you were a kid. You’d watch them, and then you’d talk about them in school. I ate it all up.
I think the first G.I. Joe toy I had was the hang glider – there was this commercial where the kids threw it. I remember buying Duke and Destro the first chance I got. Transformers were a little different because they were pretty high-end toys – so I had Gobots.

Nrama: Gobots were the Transformers that your parents would buy you when they didn’t want to buy you Transformers.
Scioli: Yeah, Gobots were like two or three dollars while Transformers could be like nine or ten – and they were really well-put-together toys. For years I didn’t have the Transformers, but I did have a Gobot that was an 18-wheeler that was red, white and blue, and I pretended that was Optimus Prime.
Eventually I got some second-hand Transformers, a bunch of them, one Christmas. And that was great, having them. I never found out how my parents got them, but I assumed some relative or friend of the family had a son who’d outgrown them and was willing to let them go cheap.

Nrama: It was so interesting with the cartoons – it wasn’t until I got to college and got bored and looked this stuff up, but there were some major comics guys who worked on these shows. You know, Steve Gerber was a story editor on both shows, and Denny O’Neill came up with the name “Optimus Prime” –
Scioli: Yeah, I just read that.

Nrama: Maybe it was the frustration that you couldn’t kill any characters or do continuing stories, but –
Scioli: Well, the comics did have pretty high body counts. But that was the thing on the G.I. Joe cartoon – if someone got hit, they’d groan as they fell to the ground so you knew they were okay, or if their plane got blown up –

Nrama: They’d parachute to safety, yeah.
Scioli: But you read the comics and they’re pretty cutthroat! And of course the movies for each of these, there’s the clearing of the decks –

Nrama: Yeah, they killed all the characters you knew in the Transformers movie! I couldn’t watch that as a kid once I heard Optimus Prime died!
Scioli: You relate so much to Optimus Prime. And it was strange, because here was a character who’d existed for maybe two years in America at this point, but he dies in that film, and it’s such a vacuum.
And I remember watching the TV cartoon, and there was like a countdown to the return of Optimus Prime…I think it was because Optimus Prime is this sort of warm-but-strong father figure, and if you’re of a certain age, you don’t want that to go away.

Nrama: I gotta give credit to the writing and to Peter Cullen’s voice-work, because the character has no facial expressions –
Scioli: Right, right, he’s wearing a mask. He’s a robot with like a mask covering up his nose and mouth. So to be able to relate to a character that’s that abstracted is really something. I agree with your assessment. The voice-acting is a big component, and that’s why it’s the same actor doing that voice to this day. And you hear that when you read the comics.

Nrama: I’ve rewatched some of the post-movie cartoons, and I didn’t like those as much as a kid, though I recognize they’re a lot better now that I’m an adult…legally, anyway. But I noticed that the designs they did for the robots for the movie and post-movie episodes had more human-like features, more detailed faces – Scourge in the Decepticons has a beard! -- and I just didn’t like that at all. They looked like gray humans wearing armor.
And you had a lot of Steve Gerber-type scripts like with Galvatron on a therapy planet or a “male” Autobot being turned into a tiny Geisha doll with an insigna for a face or a retired Cobra Commander turning the Autobots into humans…that was sort of an unsettling, uncanny experience for me. That stuff had an effect on me –
Scioli: I think I’ve witnessed the effect it had on you. (both laugh) It brought the toys closer to what was depicted in the cartoons – the Optimus and Megatron in the cartoon were much more anthropomorphic than the toys –

Nrama: Oh, Megatron was a terrible, terrible toy. He had a trigger between his legs, and it didn’t help that part of the gun barrel was on his thigh right next to it. It’s one of the most unsettling children’s toys ever.
Scioli: Those cartoons – there were a lot of episodes. They had seasons of like 65 episodes, compared to like 22 for a season of a prime-time TV show. They were vast, with a large number of writers working on these, and you had all these voices contributing to the series.

Nrama: Yeah, and you could see the weirder voices like Gerber standing out – I remember this two-parter…looking it up…Martin Pasko did it, where they got rid of some Joes who’d been killed off in the comics by sending them to a parallel dimension where Cobra had won.
Scioli: I remember those episodes! Those were probably the episodes that made the biggest impression on me as a kid, and I think about those a lot. I think when you’re a kid, that whole parallel universe concept in general is very resonant. I remember that being very poignant, and those Joes deciding to stay in that universe and fight as the resistant.

Nrama: I saw that again, and there was one bit where a Joe got bit by an insect and his eyes were all yellow and he was hallucinating and ranting – I had to have been five or six when I saw this! And there was a Lovecraft one in that series as well, a big creature living under Destro’s ancestral home that was an eyeball with tentacles.
Scioli: I’m going to have to revisit these episodes – as you’re describing them, they’re sounding like Steve Gerber comics. A lot of these cartoons are like distant memories for me – the comics are fresher, because I read more old comics than watch old TV, but I remember so many parts of these episodes. But some of these have that Silver Age Superman quality – that was an obsession of Gerber’s as well.

Nrama: Yeah, he did stuff like that Phantom Zone miniseries – taking that weirdness but treating it more seriously, with this nightmarish quality.
Scioli: When I was a kid, I thought I’d seen every episode of these cartoons multiple times, but man, some of these I don’t recall at all – and yet, the way you’re describing them, they sound very weird and compelling. I need to see these.

Nrama: Well, let me know what you think. This has proven really therapeutic to me.
Scioli: You talk about the change-over with characters for Transformers – I do remember when they did something similar on G.I. Joe, putting Serpentor in charge of Cobra. A lot of people didn’t like Serpentor, but I did.

Nrama: Really? I know the DiC-produced episodes of the cartoon are vastly inferior, but I did love the moment where Cobra Commander re-evolved to human form and zapped Serpentor into an iguana. That was a sort of “hell yeah!” moment for me as a kid.
Scioli: Like, Serpentor…visually, he’s so different from everything that came before. I liked that look, and I hadn’t seen the Conan the Barbarian movie yet at that point in my life, so the whole snake thing, how he had snakes slithering on his neck that he could throw as spears, that was cool.And I had a definite SF/fantasy bent, so taking things into that realm for me was really cool. I think a lot of kids wanted something slightly more realistic, or at least more like action movies.

Nrama: Well, it’s a cool idea – here’s a bad guy engineered from the worst tyrants in history –
Scioli: And it sets up that quest – “Let’s to Transylvania and get a piece of Dracula’s DNA!”

Nrama: I think the division bell in fandom is that you and I watched the cartoons, and a lot of other fans grew up reading the Larry Hama comics, and he has that military experience, a slightly greater sense of realism –
Scioli: Yeah, you get that in the comics. You learn a lot of lingo, a real sense of military procedure – that comes through in the comics.

Nrama: Hama has some crazy stuff – if you read the bios he did for the file cards for the figures, he has these oddball moments of satire, like Dr. Mindbender being a dentist who had an overdose of his own gas.But they’re a little more serious in the comics, a little more real-world, where characters get injured and die all the time, while the cartoon was more of an absurdist playground. The Transformers comics, especially the British stuff, that was more gonzo than the cartoons –
Scioli: I’ve been reading the volumes of Simon Furman stuff that IDW’s been reprinting. I’m enjoying those a lot.

Nrama: They’re kind of a weird, crazy, cosmic saga.
Scioli: Yeah, and stuff happens really fast. Reading them in trades is like getting years of stuff in a weekend’s worth of reading. So you go from the first wave of characters to Galvatron and Hot Rod relatively quickly, and then time travel gets introduced to bring in those future characters from the movie –

Nrama: And in Transformers, they had all these alternate timelines to keep introducing new characters. And towards the end, Simon Furman was ready to leave…
Scioli: Yeah, I’ve been reading those collections and it’s getting a little confusing…

Nrama: I can’t help you much, though I did remember that he was doing Transformers: Generation Two at Marvel, and I read that he named a character “Jhiaxus” as a pun on “Gee,axe us!” because he knew the book couldn’t last.
Scioli: I’ll have to check that out.

Nrama: To kind of give this reminiscing a point – these were characters explicitly designed to sell toys. And yet here you and I are, nearly three decades later, we’re talking about them, fans are still going to see the movies, watching the cartoons, buying the toys – why are they so powerful?
Scioli: I think the designs are really strong, that whatever the initial impetus for creating these things was, people still invested the full weight of their imaginations and creativity on them, and so they transcended whatever initial decision-making brought them into being. Someone like Larry Hama offered whatever he had in terms of life experience and imagination into G.I. Joe, and it’s something that transcends generations, something kids and adults can enjoy years later. Comics are something designed to sell themselves, and I’ve spent might adult life reading and making comics. The commercial aspect is almost invisible. I think it’s almost beside the point.

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